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French Decorative Bookbinding - Eighteenth Century

Post Douceur workshop 1785


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I was very lucky to see the binding shown above on eBay last week, here was a chance to explore in high resolution scans some of the imprints that we have been researching on some previous Post Douceur pages in 2019 (click here to see them). One of our main concerns in those pages was an imprint that Giles Barber (2013) catalogued as DCT 25.


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Comparative Diagram 1 - Barber's DCT 25 tool model.

In Comparative Diagram 1, I show the critically important DCT 25 from Barber's 2013 catalogue. (Catalogue of Printed Books and Bookbindings: The James A. de Rothschild Bequest at Waddesdon Manor. By Giles Barber, August 28, 2013), He lists three other bindings that he found bearing this imprint and yet this example that he has chosen would have to be one of the poorest. The three bindings W.Cat.233, W.Cat.239, and W.Cat.408 are very important in our study of this particular workshop, in as much as Barber has catalogued many of the tools from these three bindings they will be an invaluable resource for our investigations.


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Comparative Diagram 2 - 1766 DCT 25 imprint vs 1785 imprint with overlay.

In Comparative Diagram 2, we see an overlay of a 1766 DTC 25 and our 1785 example. In the overlay the 1766 has been inverted. You will notice that the 1766 example is like new and is clean and sharp and makes an excellent model to compare with our high resolution scan. We see in the overlay a perfect match in terms of overall size, thus we confirm that our Rahir reproduction (click here to see it) is at a very accurate scale. This tool could be a late Louis Douceur tool and will be a key facture in solving the riddle of how it appears in 1766 bindings as well as 1785 bindings, and who exactly was employing this tool?


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Comparative Diagram 3 - 1785 DCT 25 examples vs W.Cat.239 examples vs Barber's DCT 25 vs 1766 example.

In Comparative Diagram 3 we see a number of 1785 DCT 25 examples compared with some poor examples extracted from W.Cat.239, there are perhaps enough similar characteristics to show that this is the same tool.


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Comparative Diagram 4 - 1785 DCT 25 enlarged detail.

In Comparative Diagram 4, I show a highly unusual feature found in the 1785 DCT 25 examples that you can see in all of them in Comparative Diagram 3. This is some thing that I have never encountered before, it appears to be a deliberate attempt to change the shape of this tool by adding small circular dots to the tool. These dots are in the same place in each example indicating that they are a now permanent part of the tool and by what technique they were added or why I have no idea. However that definitely were not visible in the 1766 imprints. Barber's DCT 25 model is not clear enough to show this although it looks like there may be something in this area of the tool. The importance of this observation of this unusual feature will be in identifying the chronology of the change in this tool. It may turn out that our 1785 Paroissien was decorated some years after 1785.


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Comparative Diagram 5 - W.Cat.233 vs W.Cat.408. vs 1785 Paroissien

In Comparative Diagram 5 we see Barber's W.Cat.233 and 408 compared with the 1785 Paroissien, the decoration of these bindings has been accomplished with a good number of the same tools. These bindings are especially linked via Barber's PAL 44.




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Comparative Diagram 6 - W.Cat.408 spine details vs 1785 Paroissien spine.

In Comparative Diagram 6 we notice that these spines share identical tools. One major difference is the raised bands of W.Cat.408, as well as the lack of the dashed filet that frames the spine panels.


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Comparative Diagram 7 - Barber PAL 44 vs post Douceur examples.

In Comparative Diagram 7, I show Barber's PAL 44 compared with two examples from my 2019 pages. The real question mark in all this is the 1780 Bisiaux binding. It would be easy to proclaim that Bisiaux is the author of all these post Douceur bindings, however it would be all based on the slim evidence of a single binding. Bisiaux changed his decorative style somewhere along the line if he made these typical dentelle bindings, 99% of all published Bisiaux bindings are decorated in the suddenly popular neoclassical styles.


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Comparative Diagram 8 - Barber's PAL 44 - high resoluton scan

In Comparative Diagram 8 we are able to see Pal 44 in high resolution and here we notice things that were barely evident previously, A1 and A2 are shown beside the thicker part of what look to be something akin to a propeller blade. B1 and B2 are correspondingly thinner, this is the same in all cases, however this arrangement leaves the lower blades with the thickest part at the bottom. This bottom row of thick blades have been labeled C through to J, why? because these are not all of the same thickness F is decidedly thicker and this fact may be useful in defining this palette. Another detail that might be very hard to pinpoint without high resolution examples is the meeting point above A1 and A2, this differs from the rest being slightly curved to form a small clockwise wave in the negative space.


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Comparative Diagram 9 - Barber's PAL 44 - example bindings

In Comparative Diagram 9. I show some very interesting PAL 44 examples, the first a 1770 Racine with Derome le jeune imprint dj-16 in the center of the spine panels. I do not think that PAL 44 is a Derome tool, I suspect that this spine may have been decorated by someone other than Derome le jeune with a mixture of his own tools and those of Derome. If PAL 44 was a Derome tool we would expect to see it more often and find it in bindings that we can definitely attribute to him. I have only seen two examples of this palette on Derome bindings, both are on identical bindings. See Erick Aguirre Le libraire Guillaume-Luc Bailly et l'atelier Derome le Jeune.




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Atelier I B 31/10/2014





Icons of the Renaissance 06/02/2014





Atelier au trefle 22/12/2014




Atelier Royal 1518 - 1524 09/11/2014





Unraveling G. D. Hobson's book on fanfares 27/11/2014





16c fanfare on eBay 23/11/2014




another Padeloup binding on eBay 07/12/2014


the last Padeloup fanfare?


Rare Padeloup binding on eBay 15/11/2014



Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Derone le jeune 23/10/2014 (unfinished work now finished)


Pierre-Paul Dubuisson's work attributed to Douceur 22/10/2014 (an under contruction page finished at last)


Louis-Marie Michon - the 1956 Disaster 19/10/2014 (an unfinished page finished at last)


Louis XII Dolphins motif 03/02/2014


Aristophanes Binder 1543 02/02/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - Atlas Catalan 12/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Linacre bindings 05/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier c. 1500-1520


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Chronology 16/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 29 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - Inventory - binding No. 39 19/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The mysterious disappearance of François Tissard d'Amboise 23/01/2014


Atelier des reliures LOUIS XII - FRANÇOIS Ier - The Simon Vostre fiasco 18/01/2014


L'Atelier Simon Vostre 1486-1521 01/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 - TOOL CATALOGUE 26/01/2014


L'Atelier de Pierre Roffet 1511-1533 27/12/2013


Pierre Roffet - fleur-de-lis binder 28/12/2013


Fleur-de-lis Binder 1525-1540 27/11/2013


Du Saix Master 02/12/2013


Atelier Étienne Roffet 1538-1549 12/12/2013


Atelier Jean Picard 1538-1547


Imitative Binder c.1540 15/12/2013


Salel Binder 1540 17/11/2013


Atelier Ruette 1606-1669 INVENTORY


Atelier Macé Ruette 1606-1644


Atelier du Maitre Doreur 1622-1638


Atelier Antoine Ruette 1638-1669


Atelier des Caumartin 1652-1715


Atelier de Charenton 1670-1685


Atelier Luc-Antoine Boyet 1685-1733


Atelier Antoine-Michel Padeloup. dit Le Jeune 1685-1758


Atelier Louis Douceur 1721-1769


Atelier Pierre-Paul Dubuisson 1746-1762


Atelier Nicolas-Denis Derome, dit Derome le Jeune 1761-1788


Atelier Jean-Pierre Jubert, 1771-1793?


Atelier MM binder, 1770-179-?





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